A bit more on UG and others

Its a puzzle for me as why UG declared that all the spiritual quests are nonsense and at the same time it is crystal clear that it is infact true. However, the statement is not an end in itself. All the spiritual 'quests' are sure nonsense because the realization is not something to be 'attained' so there is no question of any quests and any sort of 'doing'. Although he says there is nothing like enlightenment, it is true at the same time that he himself does not function the way other people do. Maybe that was his way of pointing out of the pointlessness of asking questions and expecting answers to be given to you. He said there is no self to discover but how could he have not seen that the disagreement he has with other realized ones is only because of the use of language. When others like Ramana are talking about the 'Self' they mean the exact same thing when UG says there is no self to discover. The word 'Self' is used by Ramana to negate the separate 'I' people assume themselves to be. Ramana uses the word 'discovery' to indicate that there is nothing that you 'become' but you just 'discover' what is already there.. so the word 'discovery' is used by him to negate the false ideas about the whole thing. So when UG says there is nothing to discover, it means the exact same thing as 'Self discovery'..

It looks like he wants to not lengthen the discussion even by one word. He simply declared nothing you do will make it happen for you. It looks like whatever methods he was given by different people consisted into 'doing' more and more things to 'attain' to enlightenment. And when he gave up on everything and didn't bother anymore, the thing happened to him. He said it is 'acausal' and no volition on your part can make it happen. He didn't even say that don't try to make it happen and in the most effortless state it will happen neither did he imply. Pappaji who was the realized disciple of Ramana told people that 'you' cannot know the truth, 'you' have to disappear. UG would agree only to the first half of that!